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Cyrus the Younger's avatar

I think the first ‘heterodox’ thought I ever had as a teenager was that if being poor or underprivileged in some way gives you ‘lived experience’ and therefore important insights into the world, then surely being rich or privileged or well educated does too! And by the same token, if privilege can blind you to certain realities, then surely disadvantage can as well.

It seems like this dynamic is playing out in that Cut article.

Mahin Hossain's avatar

Here are some points I’ll make to shore up Venker’s position. Venker might still overall be wrong, but I’m confident in the following observations:

1. Women “going solo rather than dating losers” is an emergent phenomenon, rather than an intended outcome. People like Venker don’t emphasise this enough. They make it sound like lots of young women are individually thinking “I can’t date this man, he’s on 50k and Joe Rogan didn’t teach him what an MBA is, so the situation isn’t getting better” — this is probably not happening on any scale. But what *is* happening is that the girlies are getting the ick. When you zoom out to the population level, it emerges that the ick seems to be weeding out the Joe Rogan men on 50k who are sans MBA.

2. There’s a very obvious synthesis of the assortative mating vs. hypergamous mating paradigms. Both are true! Hypergamous arrangements are desired, but assortative arrangements are eventually reached at the population level. Ceteris paribus, the very eligible son of the Duke of Norfolk is going to marry his classmate the daughter of the Duke of Marlborough as opposed to his colleague Sophie at his royal trust charity — leaving Sophie to settle for, I don’t know, some JP Morgan assoc. Every seller wants to sell to the buyer for an infinitely high price and every buyer wants to buy for an infinitely low price, but when the market clears we see trades happening at a price somewhere in between that both buyer and seller can live with.

3. If women indeed aren’t marrying because their pairwise equivalent men are losers, I think this is fantastic and the feminist cause should embrace it. The 17th century feminist Mary Astell made precisely the right point on this: the patriarchy forced women to pair off with their inferiors and then *be subordinated to their authority*. Now neither of those are true. If there is a problem it’s a market gap problem where the demanded commodity of worthy men is not being supplied. But feminists need to tell people that this is a much better problem to have than being yoked to and then subordinated to an unworthy man. (Indeed, being subordinated at all.) There’s this line I see promulgating, to the tune of “you silly girlbosses, look at you all lonely now, don’t you see you’d have been happier as the tradwife of Jack the Joe Rogan fan without the MBA?” It’s a bit bizarre to me how many people seem to believe it, and they need to be told “uh, nope.”

Sorry for the gratuitous econ, I heard you went to UChic

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