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Not-Toby's avatar

I think a lot about this one comedian I follow who one time got annoyed at all the "wow a woman who isn't funny in comedy" comments and DM'd one of the dudes like what are you even commenting this for, and he turned out to be a nice guy who was a professed fan who couldn't really articulate his thinking behind the comment besides "i mean it's a joke." and she realized that like, a LOT of comments online are people on the toilet + the phone removing any disconnect between random thoughts and speech. so I imagine a subset of this commentary is just that - it's The Thing You Say during pride so it just sorta tumbles out of people's mouths

I think this effect also drove a lot of cancellation's power online, which was all about the size and consistency of dog piles your tweets faced. a lot of people (self included) would comment sorta a la shadowwada here - not really even committed, just idly like "huh yeah weird" - but that becomes part of the avalanche nonetheless. So when the vibe shifts and people stop doing that because it's no longer The Thing You Say, all of a sudden the threat is sort of a paper tiger, because it becomes obvious the only people actually *upset* in a meaningful sense are like five idiots on bsky

The Digital Entomologist's avatar

I've been sick as a dog this week, so I've been following your saga more than a person should. Bluesky is pretty much 99% bad faith pile-on-ers, accusers, deliberate misinterpreters, uniformed unintentional misinterpreters, etc. The only joy was watching ACW drop little super-sub-skeets of support.

Brian's avatar

I'm gay, and it's weird to me that there are people who regard Pride month as so sacrosanct as to make it blasphemy to publish about heterosexuality during it. I'm pushing 50 and I've never been to a Pride event. I've been close friends with other gay men my whole life, and no one's ever suggested we go to one. Pride's never really been on my radar. I didn't know I was so strange for that.

Kayla's avatar

Man, your book is FULL of caveats for the woke mob, but nothing is ever enough for them.

Phoebe Maltz Bovy's avatar

They're not "caveats for the woke mob," it's that I'm trying to be precise about what I am and am not arguing! I've been to the rodeo enough times (I'm on the Harper's letter!) that I'm well aware that anyone fitting a "woke mob" description is no fan of mine.

Also, at least as importantly, the mob in question certainly never read the book and probably didn't so much as click on the excerpt.

Rick's avatar

You think that's bad? I, a mediocre cishet white dude, have had the temerity to be married to a WOMAN for the entirety of this pride month! Worse, I'm going to take up space staying married to her NEXT pride month. In fact I have ruined the last ten pride months and am aiming to ruin the next 50.

Rafael Frumkin's avatar

As a person of gay experience I feel great saying that we REALLY have progressed past the need for Pride Month. My wife and I are intensely non-observant and tend to 🙄 when we see the hand-wringing, 8th-time-updated rainbow-whatever flags in storefronts

Chris Willis's avatar

Just realized I missed my chance to say “and during Father’s Day”

Quiara Vasquez's avatar

So let me get this STRAIGHT, WOMAN -- your excerpt about The Golden Girls just HAPPENS to drop the same week as Mindy Kaling claims she intends to create a ""reimagined"" Golden Girls? And you expect us to believe that??

shadowwada's avatar

Look Mom, I'm on Substack!!! Though it's weird how you refer to me as "a person" and "someone on the internet" when my name is in the screenshots. I'm not Lord Voldemort LOL.

Phoebe Maltz Bovy's avatar

Yes as your recent post made clear, you’re selling marketing services.

shadowwada's avatar

For the record, I used to do social media marketing consulting but I don’t anymore. I brought it up to provide credibility that I know what I’m talking about. Ironic since you’re promoting a book with your name plastered all over it but marketers are evil LUL.